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Imagine you are friends with hundreds of real estate investors and entrepreneurs. Now imagine you can grab a beer with each of them and casually chat about failures, successes, motivations, and lessons learned. That’s what The BiggerPockets Podcast delivers.

Co-hosted by Brandon Turner, David Greene, and BiggerPockets founder Joshua Dorkin, this podcast provides actionable advice from investors and other real estate professionals every week. The show won’t tell you how to “get rich quick” or sell you a guru system; instead, the BiggerPockets Podcast will give you real strategies that work for real people.

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00:44:27

BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast Seeing Greene: The 10-Second Formula to Solve the "Sell vs. Rent" Situation Seeing Greene: The 10-Second Formula to...
Unless you’re trying to invest in real estate using all cash, you’ll need to know which investment loans work best for you. But what if you’re a contractor, a business owner, or self-employed? What if you’ve already used up all your financeability and your DTI (debt-to-income ratio) is too high for lenders to take you seriously? What’s your next step? Fortunately, even if you’re feeling the crunch of difficult financing, you still have numerous ways to buy rental properties. You just need to know where to look! We’re back! Or more like David is back on another episode of Seeing Greene where he takes the most-pressing questions from our audience and answers them live for all investors to benefit. In this episode, we’ll be talking about mid-term rentals and the threat they pose to “regular” rental property investing, why it’s so challenging to find investor-friendly agents, how wholesaling real estate could get you into trouble, and house hacking in an expensive market (even with VERY little down). Want to ask David a question? If so, submit your question here so David can answer it on the next episode of Seeing Greene. Hop on the BiggerPockets forums and ask other investors their take, or follow David on Instagram to see when he’s going live so you can hop on a live Q&A and get your question answered on the spot! In This Episode We Cover: Why mid-term rentals may be the perfect sweet spot between effort and cash flow How to grow an investor-friendly team of agents when most agents simply won’t cut it Scaling your rental property portfolio using DSCR loans and other investment property products The 10-second calculation that’ll help you decide whether to sell or rent out your house House hacking in an expensive market and whether the “5% down” method is just a myth Why agents could find themselves in serious trouble when trying to wholesale real estate And So Much More! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Youtube Channel BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets Pro Membership BiggerPockets Bookstore BiggerPockets Bootcamps BiggerPockets Podcast Get Your Ticket for BPCon 2022 Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Learn About Real Estate, The Housing Market, and Money Management with The BiggerPockets Podcasts Get More Deals Done with The BiggerPockets Investing Tools Find a BiggerPockets Real Estate Meetup in Your Area David's BiggerPockets Profile David's Instagram Partnerships—What to Do Before You Jump in With Another Investor 3 Reasons I Think Medium-Term Rentals Beat Short-Term: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-medium-term-rentals-reasons-best?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=description&utm_campaign=none Get Closing Costs Covered with Kyle Renke Housing Market “Soft Spots” with Kyle Renke Click here to check the full show notes: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-666 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Check out our sponsor page! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

01:07:29

BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast Building a 150-Unit “Lease Arbitrage” Empire and the STR Furnishing Playbook Building a 150-Unit “Lease Arbitrage” Em...
Short-term rental arbitrage seems like an elusive concept. As a real estate investor, it can be a little hard to wrap your head around it. You lease a property, rent it out, and then…profit? That’s right! Without buying a rental property, dealing with maintenance or large-scale repairs, you too can make just as much money (if not more) than the landlord down the street without ever owning the property in the first place. It sounds like a dream, but in reality, you’ll need an airtight system and team to make it work. Thankfully, Jeff Iloulian has all that and more. Before 2014, Jeff was living as a lucrative lawyer, billing high by-the-minute rates and making money every second he worked. This was during the “wild west” of short-term rental investing, where mom-and-pop owned vacation rentals were starting to become a serious way to make passive income. Jeff initiated his portfolio with just one “lease arbitrage” unit and eventually ballooned his empire up to 150 rentals! Now, Jeff does more than just run his short-term rental portfolio. He runs the buying group HostGPO, helping link up short-term rental operators with vendors who can provide better, time-tested, industry-specific products. Not only that, Jeff manages numerous other vacation rentals, so he knows everything from furnishing to cleaning, check-out procedures, and more. He gives a furniture and furnishing masterclass in the second half of this interview where many of his tips could save you thousands over the lifetime of just one rental unit. In This Episode We Cover: Rental arbitrage and how any investor (no matter their budget) can use it to make passive income Breaking out of the “not enough time” matrix to start investing on a busy schedule Furnishing your short-term rental and why IKEA may not be the best bet for bed sheets Building your short-term rental dream team and how to manage a large-scale portfolio The mega-niche investing opportunity of renting soon-to-be destroyed homes  Leaving a lucrative career to invest in real estate and why it’s almost always worth it And So Much More! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Youtube Channel BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets Pro Membership BiggerPockets Bookstore BiggerPockets Bootcamps BiggerPockets Podcast Get Your Ticket for BPCon 2022 Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Learn About Real Estate, The Housing Market, and Money Management with The BiggerPockets Podcasts Get More Deals Done with The BiggerPockets Investing Tools Find a BiggerPockets Real Estate Meetup in Your Area David's BiggerPockets Profile David's Instagram Rob's BiggerPockets Profile Rob's Youtube Rob's Instagram Rob's TikTok Rob's Twitter Airbnb Rental Arbitrage—The Ultimate Guide The Ultimate Guide to Short-Term Rental Properties Creative Ways to Furnish Your Short-Term Rentals on a Budget How to Build Your Dream Short-Term Rental Team Get Exclusive Short-Term Rental Investor Discounts with HostGPO Book Mentioned in the Show: Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat by David Greene Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth by Avery Carl Connect with Jeff: Jeff's Website Click here to check the full show notes: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-665 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Check out our sponsor page! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

01:00:25

BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast Why Your “Pitch Deck” Won’t Work (and What to Do Instead) (Part 2) Why Your “Pitch Deck” Won’t Work (and Wh...
The way you pitch anything is how you pitch everything. So how are you showing your professionalism in meetings, negotiations, or presentations? Are you rolling in nervously with a pitch deck that looks like it was made by two middle-schoolers, sporting an unfitting suit and some cheap-looking picture of Hawaii as your background? Is that what multimillionaires want to see on a deal presentation? Will investors even take you seriously? There are a few keys to a perfect pitch, regardless of what you’re even pitching. Oren Klaff, author of Pitch Anything, has become a master at deal negotiations and capital raising. He’s seen what makes a prospective investor walk out of the room or end a video call early, and he’s here to make sure you’re not the person on the other end of that presentation. So what do you need to do to successfully sell or pitch anything? In part two of this second episode with Oren, we walk through the different types of brain stages a presentation attendee is in, how to bypass the brain, and the wrong way to design a pitch. Oren has seen it enough to know that the how you’re presenting information probably isn’t the right way. He gives some rapid-fire tips on immediately boosting your credibility, upping the stakes, and how to get investors, attendees, or anyone else on your side from the first sentence. In This Episode We Cover: Pitching to “dead air” and how to successfully sell anyone on a deal in the video conference-first world Bypassing the brain so investors and attendees hear what you have to say The wrong way to structure a pitch and why most people fail at building rapport Ending the pitch, escalating the tension, and raising the stakes for your attendees The million-dollar move that helped Rob raise seven figures in only a few days And So Much More! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Youtube Channel BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets Pro Membership BiggerPockets Bookstore BiggerPockets Bootcamps BiggerPockets Podcast Get Your Ticket for BPCon 2022 Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Learn About Real Estate, The Housing Market, and Money Management with The BiggerPockets Podcasts Get More Deals Done with The BiggerPockets Investing Tools Find a BiggerPockets Real Estate Meetup in Your Area David's BiggerPockets Profile David's Instagram Rob's BiggerPockets Profile Rob's Youtube Rob's Instagram Rob's TikTok Rob's Twitter Check Out Part One with Oren How to Take Control of Everyday Negotiations With One Simple Technique How to Pitch to Investors So They Bite The 4-Second Pitch to Unlock Unlimited Funds Book Mentioned in the Show: Pitch Anything by Oren Klaff Connect with Oren: Oren's website Click here to check the full show notes: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-664 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Check out our sponsor page! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

00:56:17

BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast How to “Raise the Stakes” So Anyone Accepts Your Deal (Part 1) How to “Raise the Stakes” So Anyone Acce...
Oren Klaff is best known for his groundbreaking book, Pitch Anything. In it, he gives a systematized way to take control of every meeting, negotiation, and deal on your terms without taking a submissive position. Oren has the expertise to back up his claims. As a world-renowned leader in sales, capital raising, and negotiation, he’s been in the meetings, flipped the script, and gotten deals done that most couldn’t even dream of. Now, he’s sharing his wisdom with you. Much of what Oren describes gets a bad rap in today’s world. The terms “alpha” or “in control” are subliminally thought of as violent or harsh, but in Oren’s context, they are completely accurate. In part one of this two-part episode, Oren gives you everything you need to take control of your deal, get negotiations done on the terms you want, and put opponents in the position for you both to succeed, instead of merely butting heads. But this advice isn’t just for the board room. These key principles work in every conversation you’ll ever have, whether you're raising millions to close on an apartment complex investment or merely trying to get your kid to eat their vegetables. The way you pitch, frame, and control a conversation directly correlates to its outcome. And in real estate investing, this isn’t a skill you’ll want to be without. In This Episode We Cover: The alpha and beta dynamic and putting yourself in the alpha position in every negotiation The risk of not taking control and how giving someone else the lead could ruin your deal Shifting perspective and the “frame control” exercise that’ll bring anyone down (or up) to your level Putting your opponent or partner in an “emotional state” so they can see your point of view  Raising the stakes and how doing so will solidify any deal that needs to get done And So Much More! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Youtube Channel BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets Pro Membership BiggerPockets Bookstore BiggerPockets Bootcamps BiggerPockets Podcast Get Your Ticket for BPCon 2022 Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Learn About Real Estate, The Housing Market, and Money Management with The BiggerPockets Podcasts Get More Deals Done with The BiggerPockets Investing Tools Find a BiggerPockets Real Estate Meetup in Your Area David's BiggerPockets Profile David's Instagram Rob's BiggerPockets Profile Rob's Youtube Rob's Instagram Rob's TikTok Rob's Twitter How to Take Control of Everyday Negotiations With One Simple Technique 7 Real Estate Negotiation Tips 4 Reasons Negotiating Regularly Will Make You Richer, Wiser, & More Confident Books Mentioned in the Show: Pitch Anything by Oren Klaff Connect with Oren: Oren's website Click here to check the full show notes: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-663 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Check out our sponsor page! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

01:23:47

BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast ROE > ROI and Why Your “Cash Flow” Number is Deceiving ROE > ROI and Why Your “Cash Flow” Numbe...
Cash flow—the two words every rookie real estate investor loves to hear. It’s always about cash flow. “If the property doesn’t bring in a healthy amount of pure profit every month, there’s no point in buying it!” This sentiment could cost you hundreds of thousands, if not millions over the lifetime of your real estate investing career. Don’t get us wrong, cash flow is important, but focusing on this metric alone may lead to your downfall. Chris Lopez hopped off the “buy only for cash flow” bandwagon long ago, and he’s much richer for doing so. Chris has become successful quickly in the real estate game, which is doubly impressive if you look at his past business history. He didn’t start in real estate sales, investing, or anything of that nature—he was more interested in building content for other businesses he was pursuing. After realizing that rental property investing was the way to go, Chris took a hard pivot, repurposing the same skills he used in his businesses to work in real estate. Now, he’s got eight units of his own, passive investments he doesn't need to worry about, and a successful real estate brokerage situated in the real estate mecca of Denver, Colorado. He’s become the foremost expert on Denver real estate not because he’s done thousands of deals, but because he knows the area well enough to teach those who don’t. Chris talks about business building, mentorship, and a much better calculation than cash flow in this episode. In This Episode We Cover: Building a real estate business that not only makes you active but passive income SEO, content marketing, and using “lead magnets” to drastically increase your deal flow The wrong way to find a mentor and four simple steps to take to get the attention of top investors The world’s best business card and how it turns you from a novice into an expert How to reevaluate your real estate portfolio to ensure it’s making the most money possible And So Much More! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Youtube Channel BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets Pro Membership BiggerPockets Bookstore BiggerPockets Bootcamps BiggerPockets Podcast Get Your Ticket for BPCon 2022 Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Learn About Real Estate, The Housing Market, and Money Management with The BiggerPockets Podcasts Get More Deals Done with The BiggerPockets Investing Tools Find a BiggerPockets Real Estate Meetup in Your Area David's BiggerPockets Profile David's Instagram Rob's BiggerPockets Profile Rob's Youtube Rob's Instagram Rob's TikTok Rob's Twitter BiggerPockets Podcast 278 BiggerPockets Podcast 558 Watch Chris’ “House Hackerz” Series on YouTube 9 Simple Steps to Finding the Best Real Estate Mentor Books Mentioned in the Show: Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki BRRRR by David Greene How to Sell Your House for Top Dollar, Faster by Faby Gonzalez Good to Great by Jim Collins Who Not How by Dan Sullivan Connect with Chris: Chris' website Click here to check the full show notes: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-662 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Check out our sponsor page! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast How to “Start from Zero” in Today’s Multifamily Market w/Andrew Cushman and Matt Faircloth How to “Start from Zero” in Today’s Mult...
The multifamily real estate market seemed almost impenetrable over the past two years. Unless you had millions in dry powder, ready to overpay for a huge apartment complex, there was a low chance you’d be making any money in the multifamily industry. This gave the big buyers an unfair advantage, while smaller investors struggled to put almost anything under contract. The tables have started to turn as interest rates rise, repricing becomes the norm, and multifamily buyers start fleeing the closing table. It’s now your time to shine, small-scale investors. As large buyers begin to fear a housing market crash, you can swoop up the spoils that could benefit you for years to come. But, before you do so, you’ll need to understand how exactly multifamily investing works. Back again on the show are Andrew Cushman and Matt Faircloth, two multifamily masters in their own rights. They’ve become real estate veterans after over a decade worth of investing experience. Now, they’re here to share some beginner steps and tips on how you can get into the world of multifamily real estate, regardless of your experience, knowledge, or bank account size. These steps are simplistic at a high level, but doing them correctly could help you beat out the competition for years to come. The only question is, are you ready to start? In This Episode We Cover: Why today’s “fearful” multifamily market is a great opportunity for new investors  Evaluating your goals, skillset, and advantages before you step into the multifamily market The biggest mistakes new investors make when choosing a real estate market How to get deals sent directly to you and build up a network of top-tier brokers Building your real estate dream team that’ll allow you to scale with far less headache Raising private capital and using other people’s money to grow your real estate empire  And So Much More! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Youtube Channel BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets Pro Membership BiggerPockets Bookstore BiggerPockets Bootcamps BiggerPockets Podcast Get Your Ticket for BPCon 2022 Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Learn About Real Estate, The Housing Market, and Money Management with The BiggerPockets Podcasts Get More Deals Done with The BiggerPockets Investing Tools Find a BiggerPockets Real Estate Meetup in Your Area David's BiggerPockets Profile David's Instagram BiggerPockets Podcast 571 BiggerPockets Podcast 586 BiggerPockets Podcast 634 BiggerPockets Podcast 279 Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies Crexi Loopnet Berkadia Cushman and Wakefield CBRE Marcus and Milichap Colliers Books Mentioned in the Show: Long-Distance Real Estate Investing by David Greene Raising Private Capital by Matt Faircloth Connect with Matt & Andrew: Andrew's BiggerPockets Profile Matt's BiggerPockets Profile Click here to check the full show notes: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-661 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Check out our sponsor page! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.